The Alt-Right Failed To Purge The Nazis And Now It’s Too Late

Charlottesville has been all over the news for the last few days and it’s big. It’s been on almost every Facebook feed expanding to people who aren’t even very political.  A common theme emerges.  The  Alt-Right = Nazis.  All those Nazi Larpers in the background with their swastikas, armbands, seig heils, and all of that nonsense have tainted what the alt-right could have been; what it should have been.

At this point, the Nazis and the “lulz” trolls can have the label.  Perhaps critics were right all along and Spencer’s supposed claim to the label ensured it was doomed from the start.

We’ve been trying to highlight for ages how vicious and dangerous AntiFa is. While they haven’t killed anyone and it’s probably a matter of time, some demented mentally instable nazi wannabe did.  He deliberately murdered a woman with his car in ISIS fashion.  That’s all people see, and it’s all they will see.

They wont see the vicious AntiFa violence there. They won’t see how the VPD not only stood down, but deliberately herded the “UniteTheRight” protesters into the path of AntiFa.  Sure enough, the police would vanish and leave the two groups to fight it out Gangs Of New York style.  This alone implicates that the authorities in heavily urban democratic cities are essentially cooperating with AntiFa.

Instead of seeing any of this, people see what was obvious – actual Nazis throwing up salutes, chanting “blood and soil”, and the works.   How can any sane person look past actual Nazi flags and not associate who ever else was there with being a Nazi.  Instead of kicking them out, you let them in.

We on the dissident right wanted so badly for the Alt-Right to become something. Now it’s done.  I associated myself with the Alt-Right for a time because I thought the Nazi Larpers were a small minority, just like the AntiFa are with the progressives.  I was wrong.  I’m not interested in denouncing them, just as the left isn’t going to denounce AntiFa. However, I can’t associate myself with them.

I enjoyed their trolling, the hillarious memes, and even chuckled at those terrible jokes that triggered the easily offended progressives to the point of Hillary herself reading them to a national audience. They were the new 1950s conservatives and we were the rebellion.   “It was the left’s turn for their sacred cows to be violated!”, we told ourselves.   We were the new anti-establishment. But that’s all we were.

What The Hell Have We Been Doing?

Rebels. With barely an articulate cause, because the “normies” weren’t worthy of wasting time for our glorious explanation.  That’s what the 1488 Larpers insisted in their glorious socialism.  We all thought they were just in it for the “lulz”.

Wasn’t building white identity supposed to be about building one that isn’t based purely on opposition and hate?  Instead they memed and kept whining about how their aren’t enough white babies, all the while refusing to bother to even take the first steps to attempt to create a family.

Yes, we have been saying that demographics is destiny. It is.  We must outbreed the left who keeps murdering their babies in the womb. Encourage the feminists to keep doing it.  Yet you ignored core strategy and the public schools indoctrinating the kids we do have.   Instead of throwing your weight behind men like Vox Day who are creating alternate platforms, you rallied to Spencer who has been a disaster for the alt-right every damn time.

You ripped on the men who actually tried to create families by marrying women from overseas for their horrid race mixing while you jerked off in your damn basements.   You stomped on Christendom and called for a return to paganism, ignoring the fact Christianity is what built European identity and made it great.   Well, you can have your weird cultish occult symbols.  That’s surely and identity that we need.

Their irony turned into sincerity as Common Filth pointed out.   It was with a horrid shock that we realized they actually believed all these things. They really did loathe blacks, jews, and minorities to the point of revulsion.  The hate had consumed them, their glorious Nazi identity and white identity based almost completely on opposition to others who were to be blamed.

Kind good hard-working immigrants don’t exist in their world. Diversity regardless of the reason is always terrible.  Hispanics are all criminals. My personal experience working and being close with them and seeing how many good people there are were all anomalies.  Yea okay.

Let’s get real here.   I have mixed race family, and I’m not just talking about my moms side and our Armenian halves.  My half-white/half-black cousins are twice the people than any of these Nazis and White Nationalists are. If push comes to shove, their well-being is my priority.  How’s that for punching right? How does it feel after you shits punching right every damn day about how we didn’t blame the jews enough or were too cuckish?

Instead of pushing truth, beauty, goodness, and the christian roots which made Western civilization, we ignored the Nazis as best we could.  It’s now to our detriment.  They were never the alt-right.  But with one protest that accomplished nothing, they took the label and burned it like the KKK did a cross.

Dickey Spencer claims victory while Baked Alaska may never see again and Heather is now dead.  Antifa or not, she’s dead.  Alex Fields who hit her, scared or not, will be raped in prison.  Lives have been lost and ruined for Spencer to have his “leadership” moment.   Forget the label. He can have it.

We Should Have Been Bold

It should be OBVIOUS that any movement that doesn’t purge Nazis is a non-starter. No sane person will have anything to do with it, let alone should.  Instead of that purge, interlopers in the Alt-right decided that somehow “Nazis” were on the right.  Somehow, someway those in the Alt-right actually believed the leftists propaganda of the last 50 years that “Nazis” are somehow right-wing.

You know, despite all the totalitarian and authoritarian positions that are held by many leftists today.  Jonah Goldberg made this point abundant in “Liberal Fascism“, but they couldn’t be bothered with it because he’s a jew.   We aren’t punching right. The Alt-Reichtards were never “right” to begin with.  Just because AntiFa is their enemy didn’t mean they were our ally.

What many of us failed to realize – myself included – was that many on the alt-right, particularly the White Nationalists, didn’t have any actual “identity” besides opposition to SJWs, BLM, feminists, progressives, etc.   Yes, we all didn’t like how “white” had become a pejorative and that white people shouldnt be ashamed or need to check their privilege.  This came from mixed race people like myself.  That should have been the sign.

As the Z Man pointed out,

Put another way, if being pro-white is only going to mean anti-black or anti-Jew or anti-Asian, then it is never going to be a useful identity group. It’s just going to be the nullification of other identity groups. That’s not a movement with a future, because it’s definition lies outside its control. It’s why feminism is curdling into a home for barren spinsters. It’s just a list of grievances. In order to avoid that fate, white identity is going to have to be a positive identity that defines itself, independent of the rest of the world.”

This is what the movement has turned into.  Constant blaming of Jews, Blacks, and every other group under the sun.  Those racial purists couldn’t even realize that not only do historical demographics constantly change – like they always have, but that it’s changing right now.  George Zimmerman was labeled a “White Hispanic.”

Articles are being published by crazed feminists about how lighter POC need to check their privilege or else they risk becoming white.  It probably won’t be long until mixed race individuals are thrown into the category.  (Remember that the Irish, Italians, Greeks, etc weren’t considered white until the 20th century.)

Despite this, they decided it had to be the core tenant. Insanity. Then the White Nationalists among us decided that Nazis were somehow acceptable, even though the Nazis historically didn’t mind killing and trying to subjugate the Greeks, French, Slavs, and Russians.   They weren’t even about bloody white supremacy!

Western European identity has been dying. Instead of figuring out why, blame was placed solely on blacks, jews, and all those other marginalized groups instead of where it should be: the heretical French Enlightement and the secularists that destroyed the foundations and burned the roots of what made Europe great.

Seriously, ask yourself? What is actually left preserving in Europe. A new identity will be born, but it won’t be one that can’t exist without other groups around to blame to fuel it’s existence. Christendom which built Europe is already being rebuilt in Africa and South America.

While you’ve been raving and ranting about their IQs, Christianity has been transforming the area. There are already more Anglicans in Africa, than in the rest of the world. The next pope will be African.  But no, you couldn’t get past the racial element.

Yes, we were with you for limiting immigration, securing the borders, diminishing the destruction wrought by globalists elites, bankers, and self serving corporations. We were with you in the fight to stop the feminist annihilation of the relationship between the genders and the nonsensical victim crying of social justice.   We were with you to fight back against political correctness.

We even tolerated Spencer’s vicious attacks and disdain of Christianity while ignoring the insanity of a “white ethnostate” in the US.  We sympathized with the vicious attacks wrought upon people branded “white” on a daily basis by progressives.  I will teach my sons (75%) white to be proud of their heritage, who they, and to never apologize for any actions of their ancestors.   I will however teach them the difference between Nazis and pride in who they are – something you couldn’t do.

But you had to let the Nazis larp with you.   Well, enjoy your label.  The people going out there to punch Nazis certainly will.  The label is toxic because you let it become so.

Signed a saddened member of the Dissident Right.

Warped Tour and a lack of Women

Apparently, Warped Tour 2014 – and previous warped tours – has a women problem.  That is in a women problem in terms of the amount of women involved in the bands who make up Warped Tour.

Now right away, this observation should be made:  This one of the the usual “divide and conquer” approaches that people employ when talking about this subject wreaks of to motivate women and/or men to endorse a particular ideology to create ” specific issues” and win them votes.   As my friend Katie has said, and I’m paraphrasing, they are trying to divided us and get us at each others throats the day we are born, and she is right.  Think for yourself.
Ms. Megan Seling over at WonderingSound has put out a rather thoughtful piece on the lack of female “involved” bands at the Warped Tour.  When “female” bands is mentioned in this post it includes both bands with female members in their ranks and female fronted ones as well.   Instead of deliberately misrepresenting what she has to say, I’ll quote this lovely piece:

“As a woman and a fan of punk rock, I’m angry and disheartened. I grew up listening to hardcore and pop-punk and I know what a boys’ club it can be. I’m used to being in the minority at shows, having to deal with guys who think they need to protect me in the mosh pit. But that was 15 years ago, and still the culture has not evolved. Part of that could be because Kevin Lyman, founder and producer of the Warped Tour, doesn’t think there’s a problem.”

Quick, but important poin a.k.a rant: Has Seling been in a “hardcore” pit in the last 10 years? You know, where the wild things dwell and the Boston hardcore scene gives no f*cks at the shows. You aren’t moving! Windmill to the face, stage dive to your head, ect.  There is a REAL reason  – part of it being physical – that some girls don’t go to actual hardcore shows. To be honest, I probably wouldn’t bring my 13 year old cousin to one if I was actually thinking of her safety.  Hold on, I’m taking my sip of patriarchal kool-aide right now.

Well, how many “female” bands are their actually on the warped tour this year? A commentor on by the name of TylerDrumming compiled what appears to be a list of women – I’m assuming they are women!


Sleeper Agent
The Summer Set
Allison Weiss
American Pinup
Beebs And Her Money Makers
Courage My Love
Emilie Autumn
Icon For Hire
Shot in the Dark
Tess Dunn
We Are The In Crowd
Aim Your Arrows (Playing 7/8)
Amber Stowell (Playing 7/8)
Blackbird (Playing 7/6-7/10 and 7/12)
Blair La Rose (Playing 6/26)
Blameshift (Playing 7/9-7/12)
Candy Hearts (Playing 7/6-7/9)
Death of Paris (Playing 7/9)
Go Betty Go (Playing 6/20 and 6/22)
Go Big (Playing 7/6)
Hunter Valentine (Playing 7/6-7/12)
Jackknife Stiletto (Playing 7/9)
Jenni Spiro (Playing 7/11)
June Divided (Playing 7/11)
Justina (Playing 7/6-7/9)
Kaleido (Playing 7/11)
Kiirstin Marilyn (Playing 7/12)
Light Up the Eyes (Playing 6/20 and 6/25)
Melanie Lynx (Playing 7/10)
Miracle Dolls (Playing 6/20 and 6/22)
Mourning Lilith (Playing 6/21)
Queen Caveat (Playing 6/20 and 6/22)
Romance Mechanics (Playing 6/21-6/25)
Romantic Rock Fashion Show (Playing 6/25)
Sara Laketa (Playing 7/10)
Sharkmuffin (Playing 7/6 and 7/11-7/12)
Shiragirl (Playing 6/20-6/26 and 7/6-7/12)
Stop the Presses (Playing 6/25-6/26)
Survival Guide (Playing 6/21 and 6/26)
The Swank Masters (Playing 6/26)
The Turbulent Hearts (Playing 6/20-6/22 and 6/26)
Varna (Playing 6/21-6/22)
Wasi (Playing 6/21 and 6/25)
You Only Live Once (Playing 6/20 and 6/25-6/26)

Kevin Lyman, the founder of Warped Tour, points out that it’s okay for one out of the six bands on average on the tour tend to be “female” involved and/or fronted and he said it was “absolutely okay” for there to be “such a one-sided ratio”, but Seling yet again disagrees:

“But it’s not. It’s not OK for Warped or the Fest, and it’s not OK that Alternative Press, a monthly music magazine that sponsors the Warped Tour, has only put a woman on its cover five times in the last three years — and twice it was Hayley Williams from Paramore.”

This acknowledgment and “defense” obviously leads to the logical and sane conclusion that,  “… as long as Warped Tour continues to boast such an insulting male-to-female artist ratio, those 500,000 fans are learning that loud music is played by dudes, and women belong in the crowd (which, according to Lyman, is 53 percent female).”  Yes. That is ABSOLUTELY what these fans are learning who can’t obviously f*ucking think for themselves. No faith in humanity right?   Apparently, neither can any of the female fans and artists there either, according to Ms. Seling, They are in fact so incapable of excelling by themselves and against the current, that they need divine male intervention in the form of Lyman rectifying the gender music gap in punk.

Seriously, I had no idea these female bands needed so much help from men!  No, don’t give me the, “There is sexism in the music industry creating significant barriers for women so they need special help!”   That’s not equality and if you are trying to balance things out by creating such a concept of “equality” by using unequal specific preferential treatment, your logic is seriously flawed.  Just like affirmative action, the ends don’t justify the means. (No, “white privilege” wont work here. Genocide bitches – I win in the oppression Olympics.)

Lyman goes on to “defend” himself and points out that the Warped Tour has an “all girls” stage for 11 of the tour dates this year…  HOLD ON for a second. Can you imagine if there was an “all male” celebration day and special privileges for said males to rectify the gender gap in teaching at the local elementary school to make the bare 5% on average of male teachers in public school? People would flip shit and you can bet your ass the NFL wouldn’t come up with a masculine color for the month to commemorate the male struggle in the school system.

Unfortunately, Lyman has been turned into an object for wrath for a problem he didn’t cause.  I as well as every other person who has the slightest idea of Kevin’s character know he has never passed on a band just because they had a “female” in the band.  Simple supply and demand is the problem here, if you want to call it an actual problem.   Bands that play, especially the main stage, are brought onto the tour because of their fans and following.  Kevin, the opportunist closet misogynist that he is, has already tried an all girls spin off tour which FAILED.    But apparently this is because women have an uninviting environment created for them in punk music and are held up to unrealistic standards.

Newsflash: There is a reason Katie Perry and Paramore draw than every punk, metal, hardcore band in general – much to my disdain – let alone if there is a woman in their ranks or not.  The demand and audience has to BE there.   There is a reason there is a higher demand for One Direction then Selena Gomez – simple demographics.

It’s not Kevins fault or his lack of promotion for “female” bands that teenage boys want to mosh to metal-core breakdowns or screaming teenage girls want to drool over Sleep With Sirens’s lead male singer whose high pitched tenor voice disturbs me.  On that note, how many girls on the Warped Tour this year would rather see Kellen Quinn from SWS singing than Emily Whitehurst, Warped tour veteran and former frontwoman of Tsunami Bomb and Action Design that Seling quotes alot in her article? Cool, now I sound like a Kevin Lyman fanboy. Negative downvotes for that.

This had me scratching my head:

“Now that I’m not really involved in punk rock as much, I’m finding that most shows I play have other women on the bill,” says Whitehurst. “It’s possible that there truly are less women playing in heavier bands, but it’s also possible that people who like heavier bands assume that women aren’t very good at it. I never hear it anymore, but being in Tsunami Bomb, I can’t even count how many times a dude would come up to me after a show and say ‘You guys were really good! I don’t usually like girls in bands!’

Really, can you make that assumption?  Ask almost any metal head and you would find it pretty rare that they would just assume a girl couldn’t play well in a metal band specifically because of their gender – even on Metalsucks.  I personally love specific kinds of female vocalists, but can it really be blamed on Kevin Lyman that a huge percentage of Warped’s Audience – emphasis on girls here – would rather see Sleeping With Sirens because of Kellen Quinn then see some female fronted local punk band?

Two “female” friends – using that word makes me feel like some sort of analytical researcher lacking humanity – however had some points to make about a facebook post/objection to the above quote of Whitehurst. My friend Katie – a very smart homeschooled girl, so you know shes good – had this to point out:

“In the article she used personal examples of men making thus exact assumption. There’s really no reason for a poll when the evidence is everywhere. For every guy who enjoys female vocalists there is one who considers a strong female group a to be as rare and mystical as a unicorn, and another who flat out refuses female vocals”

I still however wonder, can one really make those assumptions? I’m not so sure I see evidence for it everywhere or its just that certain activists have told us there is evidence for it EVERYWHERE.   My friend Mary make’s this point – and note she was in a metal band and yes, it was genuine with plenty of screaming.

 In my opinion it’s a little of both. Or perhaps that in media women are so stereotyped that people’s initial reaction is that bands with females wont be as heavy or as intense. In a lot of cases this turn out to be true, but I don’t think its because of a lack of ability, I think females lack confidence to get out there and realize what they can do.

I still think its bullshit to call Lyman out for something he has actually tried and for getting angry that he points out that the bands on the tour are determined by fans, support, and following.  If we want to get more women into bands on the tour – specifically heavier ones – its going to take a hell of alot more than just giving them a stage or promoting the hell out of female bands to attract an actual fan base and following. Don’t people realize how hard it is for almost any music that isn’t pop, hip-hop-, or country to compete with drawing a female fan base – specifically from a younger demographic – when punk, hardcore, metal, ect is the music in question?  That right there is one of the reasons why there is so few female “involved” bands, let alone good ones that attract alot of worthy attention.

Just my rants and thoughts, but feel free to leave me any death-threats.