Manufactured Outrage Against The Scarlet Label – The Roosh V/ROK Meetups

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People See What They Want To See

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Violence is okay against people we don’t like

I was listening to a podcast in which Mike Cernovich was interviewed by a Muslim feminist Mirriam Seddiq.  The topic was broached as to why he didn’t bother to make it clearer to detractors/haters/trolls that he didn’t hate women, something his then girlfriend and now wife Shauna asked him.  His response to her was that people see what they want to see.

That is precisely what this “Roosh wants to legalize rape” media frenzy is doing as it panders to juicy and downright libelous headlines for clicks.  His detractors, plus people who are willing to believe the absolute worst about someone because “someone said so online”, don’t really care about truth if they can demonize an “extremist” or someone they don’t like.  Rocking Philosophy makes this point perfectly regarding the Roosh V witch hunt:

“Particularly hypocritical is the way leftists pretend not to recognise satire. There have been countless occasions when the Left, with the backing of their media cohorts, have used the ‘satire’ and ‘humour’ defence when they’ve overreached (or they just deny something ever happened). One example is the EndFathersDay hashtag. Another is the KillAllWhiteshashtag. Anything found on website, the Onion, can basically be put in this category, too.”

Remember, it’s only satire when they do it.  You are now seeing  media manufactured outrage at its peak, created in part by rabid feminists like David Futrelle which is where this chain of stories first started a week back.  I wont link to his site, just google, “We Hunted The Mammoth”

The fact that it was a thought experiment in the form of satire is irrelevant – Futrelle the king of disingenuous quote mining – now that a very dedicated mob has their torches and their game-plans worked out.  Obviously, Jonathan Swift was a pro-cannibalism and slavery advocate.

Well, an article by Snopes debunking the idea that a group of men attending meetups around the world who support legalizing rape has been out for almost 24 hours.

Of course, this hasn’t stopped minor to major media outlets like Chicago’s very own WGN from pretending that this group of heinous vicious possible patriarchal misogynist rapists in the underground volcano are indeed as villainous and their headlines and stories would suggest.

It doesn’t matter that Roosh has made clear that the article in question that has garnered him recent headlines such as, “Nearly 50,000 sign petition to ban pro-rape pick-up artist” and Militant pro-rape ‘pick up artist’ Roosh V organises event for followers in Manchester City Centre  was satire.

That is just out of what is now over 300 news articles in the last several days virtually saying the same thing as they piggyback information off each other with each description of Roosh getting worse than the last.    Strangely vacant in most of them is the disclosure of the satire in question, because who cares?

Emboldened indeed.   Below is just in the last hour when this was written…

What’s even more shocking is that the same people who sincerely and utterly believe that rape is VERY bad – as do 99.9% of the rest of the population – have no problem making rape threats against Roosh and any men who plan on showing up to the meetups.

It’s even more ironic that these as well as threats of beatings via baseball bats, castration, and even death are coming from people who often speak out against feminists being subjected to online “harassment” and “abuse”.

Roosh has now been doxxed, something feminists often complain they are threatened with, but don’t seem to show much outrage toward at the moment.

At least we can say we showed consistent condemnation of the censorship of free speech when #istandwithbaharmustafa trended worldwide on Twitter in response to the nonsensical hate speech laws of the UK, even though she tweets things such as #killallwhitemen.

I explained this to my wife who was seeing articles about Roosh pop up on her Facebook feed and she asked me, “Can’t he do something about it?”  Roosh can do something about it, but his target audience are the observers in the background who will be made aware of just how vicious and downright appalling the conduct of his critics are.

To do this, documentation of the threats they make is essential and this post aims to do just that.

Hear Supposed Evil, See Supposed Evil

Notice how members of these protest groups against the meetups are willing to encourage violence, rape, and death-threats toward anyone who dares attend:

Well now.
“Put a bullet in his head”, “shoot him”, “send him my way, I have a gun ready…”

Notice that particular quote from Mr. Brent Vee , “Mate if you ever go to Sydney and i gope my boys meet you, belt the f** k out of you, bend you over and rape every hole on your body with every cylinder like object they can find…  I hope you’re chucked into a sydney jail where the boys have a field day with you…

And more…

Did anyone else notice Mr. Daniel Karp uttering the following polite and cordial words, “Im going to smash your fucking face in. You going to be begging for death when I am finished with you.  You fucking piece of shit. Die fucker die!” or the kind words from Victor Rook, “Hey fuck stick, come to ct sometime, I feel like raping a little bitch named roosh.”  Clearly, he believes rape is a terrible thing that no human being should suffer…

“Kick the living shit out of them” Apparently, he really isn’t all that opposed to violence as long as it’s the right people.

Threats And More Threats

Note: Any images that appear are because The Roosh V Forum is currently in private mode due to signs of imminent doxxing, rape, and death threats.  This will change in the near future. 


Anyone who agrees with Roosh deserves to have their spleen removed and their testes stomped.  He sounds like a nice tolerant guy.

Catch that as well?

He doesn’t find the idea of rape abhorrent if it someone who he abhors getting raped.  I’m noticing a pattern here.


“IM GOING TO FUCKING MURDER YOU CUNT!!!…”  courtesy of Mr. Jake Lawrence.  Isn’t that kind of violent speech illegal in Australia?

See that? Roosh needs torture followed by a bullet. A perfectly acceptable call to violent action and murder.

What is the common theme that you – most intelligent and perceptive reader – have noticed throughout these posts? How about the following  tweets and posts?

Note, I’m not going to bother to block out any of their names.  This is on them and the public format they are shouting threats from.   Take a look at who the real animals are.





Violence is bad – except if it’s directed toward a group of people that it’s acceptable to vilify.  So is apparently is rape, that is unless you are raping acceptable targets.  I wonder where we have seen that before.  The tirade of various vicious threats continues.




Speaking of even more death-threats…



I planned on going to the Chicago meetup, regardless of tough guy anarchists.  Let their tactics demonstrate just how willingly these people are willing to go to silence dissenting.

The Scarlet Label

If you browse through the various comments on all of the media coverage on Roosh, both through social media and the sites’ comment sections, you’ll notice labels tossed our way like “archaic”, “misogynist”, “medieval”, “stone-age”, “rapey”, “outdated”.

What these labels do is determine particular “crime-think” for the unwitting masses.  Your ideas aren’t debated, rather they and any individual who dares discuss them are labeled.

Essentially, the messenger is always shot, or in our case threatened with doxxing, rape, and death.   The messenger deserves no trial to defend themselves because an archaic patriarchal creepy misogynist who supports legalizing rape couldn’t possibly be innocent of all those terrible buzzword labels.

That’s the point.

It literally is Rules For Radicals applied to thought-criminals that don’t subscribe to the cultural hegemony. The “individual” – thanks to digital mainstream culture and socio-fascist SJWS and feminists – is now a legitimate target ranging from their reputations and family to their jobs and even legal welfare.

The “protesters” version of peaceful protest and assembly seemed to involve everything from castration and rape to physical beatings and even death rendered toward the thought criminals who planned on meeting for drinks.

None of their threats had anything to do with “debating” us.  In fact, they were willing to go as far as plastering our faces with all the juicy labels attached – including “pro-rape” – online and in the streets in an effort to cost us our jobs, if not much more.
I loathe feminism and social justice, but never could I imagine going after someone with this level of vitriol and threats – assuming they weren’t already at this level engaging in these tactics, in which you must fight fire with fire.

It should now be clear; our most ardent and slanderous critics aren’t interested whatsoever in debates.  As Quintus Curtius has pointed out in his article, “We Will Not Debate You, We Will Replace You,”

Debate, if that word is to have any rational meaning, can only take place if there is good faith on the part of all participants.  When there is no good faith–that is, when one side deliberately lies and distorts the views of the other–then there are no grounds for rational discussion.

Violence is apparently quite golden when we are in the cross-hairs. It’s even justified against reprobate scoundrels like us in the manosphere, Alt-right, and anglosphere who have been labeled everything villainous under the sun.  We put Bond villains to shame with this newfound level of media created infamy..

We are on the worlds most wanted list of thought-criminals and its time to render unto Caesar what is Caesars; the scorched earth approach to our enemies who have showed no such caution in doing it to us.

This is what operation Bull-Horn is about; accountability by those with a pulpit who have chosen to lie and slander with it – nothing more and nothing less.

If you as a journalist lie blatantly and deliberately, then we will have no reservation in letting your current and future employers, as well as your audience and peers know of your deliberate malpractice.

We will fight back.

1. Through establishing a close support network founded upon trust, loyalty, and “iron sharpening iron” so we can coordinate our efforts to fight back effectively and efficiently.

This is why the meetups were so important and will occur in the future.   In order to truly trust someone, you need to at least see them face-to-face and experience the non-verbals that help sharpen our instincts.

2.  Through words – emails, posts, letters, and even social media posts to generate acute awareness, as well as other various ways, each according to their own.

3. With pictures and video. Whenever the mob threatens action, always have your phone ready, recording every interaction where anything even remotely violent is attempted.

If they are okay with plastering our faces everywhere with the intent to destroy our lives, then we should retaliate in kind when they are caught assaulting us in public.   Violent offenders are a danger to the public, are they not?

Carpe Diem and always be prepared if they do manage to get to you.


Reviewing and Promoting Books in the Alt-Right/Manosphere While Retaining Your Integrity.

Books Reviews and Promotions. Ethical Integrity

This post isn’t an indictment, but nearly an examination of principle for myself – and perhaps others – that I am trying to formulate regarding book reviews and promotions.   It’s an acknowledgment of the fact that we need to review and promoting books in the Alt-Right/Manosphere while retaining on our honest and integrity in the process.

Books Reviews and Promotions. Ethical Integrity
Is this a fair and honest description?

The manosphere, reactosphere, and the Alt-Right in general has it’s own fair share of “Buy my shit” types, who are trying to make a living off writing, being an e-celeb/public figure your family has never heard of.  Nothing is wrong with this or making money from matters you invest your time in, but we should examine the ethos behind back scratching, even if it’s for people we really like and for reasons we’ve written about thoroughly on our blogs.

So what separates the good from the bad?  How do other people know?  Can they mistake our “glowing reviews” for just echo-chamber circle jerking low-life’s that are trying to make a quick buck off the beta saps?

A man’s reputation is all he has and as any politician knee-deep in a scandal can tell you, it can be destroyed in an instant.  This is especially true in the online world, where a person’s word is their bond – and their action/money sometimes.  Many scammers exist, and the alt-right is no exception.  So how do we stop ourselves from looking like one – or better yet not becoming one?  It’s my job and that of others to sort the wheat from the chaff.

Well, are we consumerist drones who buy what we don’t need, or are we trying to simply keep the cash in the circles we value and invest our time in?  It’s not a simple answer necessarily.  I’m sure you’ve all seen pleas/demands/suggestions like the following:

“Buy My Self-Improvement Book And Your Life Will Never Be The Same!”

“Score hot chicks in the Philippines”

“Hot babes will jump your balls after you read about my epic conquests.”

“Bang, Bang, Bang a zillion different countries.”

In some way, shape, or form, we then review each others books in a generous manner.  Yes, the posts, tweets, and articles help the google search index rankings, get your name out there, and generate some good ole buzz.  Well, are we being honest with ourselves and the people who might see our reviews?

Notice though that the ratings will never be worse then a 3 out of 5, and even if the knowledge doesn’t apply to our life’s situation in any way, we encourage other people to buy it because they might benefit from it.  Okay, fair enough. Maybe they will.   However… and that’s a big,


If it hasn’t benefited us in some way, can we honestly tell other people it will benefit them? Anecdotal evidence is what people want and expect when you review a book.  They don’t want to know if it’s helped a bunch of nameless people around the world, they want to know if it’s helped you, or else they would read about Joe Kim’s review of the book written from a laptop in Vietnam.

So should one review a book that directly doesn’t apply to them and whose tenants and advice they won’t be able to utilize at that particular time?  Again, perhaps.

Okay, I have a small dog in this query.  I’m now married.  Reading books such as Roosh’s “Bang” or even Matt Forney’s “Do The Philippines” are great for someone who is single, needs to learn game, and has a raging boner that is never satisfied.  But what if you aren’t single? What if you are past the stage of spinning plates?

This doesn’t mean I’m dissing the books, I just don’t know if I can review them and be like, “Yea, this book is great, I applied it, and it’s something I want to do.”  While I actually quite like Matt Forney, I need to find another way to help him out or promote his book, that doesn’t make me feel disingenuous when I promote it Instead, I should buy and review one of his other books that might be a more useful, yet entertaining consummation of my time.  Trolling For A Living anyone?

What if you want more? Or you are in a different season of your life?

For instance,  I’m married and I have a kid on the way.  I’ve taken on a whole new set of responsibilities in my quest to start a family and “time management” is now one of them.  Books that seem like a quality time investment would include Mike Cernovich’s “Gorilla Mindset” and Quintus Curtius“Pathways”.   ( I’ll be finishing up my reviews on these which will hopefully do these books justice.)

Now I suppose you could still be in my situation and enjoy an entertaining read of one of Roosh’s Bangs, but that’s up to you.

I just however can’t justify that investment of time.  Time you see, has literally become a “filter” in determining what books I should or should not bother with -its made choosing fiction even more difficult.   My desire is to keep my money in the alt-right when I can.

If I ever want to help build the communities and the “tribes” that are mentioned, I’ve got to vote with my credit cards, so to speak as well as my voice.    Using my voice properly, truthfully, and genuinely is of utmost importance however to my reputation and to the reputation of those I vouch for.

We need to think VERY carefully about how we do that.  Integrity matters.

I can’t stress this enough which is why I worry when I see the usual flood of book reviews from semi popular manospherians  anytime someone in the manosphere publishes material for a price.   Is the book actually good?  Will people who stumble upon the manosphere suspect its just filled with a bunch of people trying to make money and dismiss it?   I also don’t want to become one of those “scammers” or “back-scratchers” in how I write reviews and even to some extent, why I write them.   I dont even accidentally want to be perceived as such.    While I understand we all need to make our money – and I have a day job for that – I emphasize the following…

Our word is our bond.

I’m to the point where I can only honestly review a book and promote it – assuming its good and I like it – if it will help people going in a similar situation to myself, or if I’ve been there and I know what they need.   So I suppose I could recommend books on game or the Philippines by authors I like such as Forney, but only to people who are single, need game, and could use a trip to the Philippines.   While my best friend might not be able to handle Pantheon, he may be able to use Gorilla Mindset.  My newly single friend however might enjoy “Do The Phillipines”, and Matt being an entertaining writer making it all the better.

I just have to make sure this is clear and that if I think something is poorly written, bad, or just simply obtuse; I point it out honestly and objectively.  I suppose nothing is harder then being objectively honest to and about people you like, and I am going to experience this first-hand.  Expect many book reviews upcoming.


Twitter Fun with SJWs angry with Forney.

On Friday, twitter was still abuzz and very angry over Matt Forney’s article on ROK: 5 Reasons Girls With Tattoos and Piercings Are Broken.  Well 20,000+ comments later and still raging, Forney has been fortunate enough to soak in the hate and slew of death threats.  The internet these days is entertaining. Say something people really don’t like, and you can expect for people to threaten to kill you.  Just got to get used to it.

Well, I saw two SJWs on twitter tweeting about hating Forney and the like so I figured I would have some fun. The tweet that got me was the one telling Forney his mother should have an abortion.

Challenge accepted.

1.  I also led off with my favorite shock style endorsement of the pro-choice position.  I encouraged all feminists to always have an abortion.  To this one of them responded that she was now going to get pregnant and have a kid named after me.

2.  I immediately dropped some buzzwords like  “cis” , “privilege” and “gender.   Both of the tweeters then mentioned how I must hate them being non-white. Nice try though, and I dropped my “half-white” card.   Now the genocide cards works pretty damn well in terms of privilege arguments, but it was tough considering one was Jewish.

3. I identified as transgender for the conversation and told them to check their privilege. The tweets went back and forth but they were amused by an MRA troll – apparently that’s what I am – being transgender.   That definitely could have entailed further labels and transphobic accusations.

In reflection what I should have done after being accused of being a troll is to accuse them of a new level of transphobia based on insisting that transgender folks can’t have certain opinions without being labeled trolls.  Whole new level of transphobia, right?

I’ll try it out on some new angry tweeters later.  It’s amazing to see what throwing in the right buzzwords can do nowadays.  The internet really is the ultimate form of entertainment.