Forney with Aurini had a recent stream on Candice Owens and her rise to prominence via “grifting” in Conservative circles. I will say that I don’t hold quite the antipathy toward Owens as others do and I specifically appreciate her role in helping to confirm what many of us already knew about Zoey Quinn – that she was harassing herself and making a virtue signaling false flag racket with it.
It however brings up an overall trend that’s been happening in the last few years and what I’m going to label as “Dissident Appropriation”. We saw it with the anti-feminists on YouTube, the Skeptic “community”, various members of the Red Pill communities, and in the Dissident Right in general.
What did we see?
Even in the Dissident Right as well as other associated spheres, you’ll notice there’s a crop of people – often anonymous or semi anonymous – trying to create a name for themselves. It happened with the manosphere and now it’s happening throughout the Dissident Right at large.
People coming in to make a quick buck and trying to create a product – not a bad thing necessarily – but with little actual ORIGINAL thoughts and ideas. They just rehashed what had been circling in the various spheres from the abstract and intellectual writings of reactionaries to the Red Pill shock jock larger-than-life style bloggers.
Charlottesville has been all over the news for the last few days and it’s big. It’s been on almost every Facebook feed expanding to people who aren’t even very political. A common theme emerges. The Alt-Right = Nazis. All those Nazi Larpers in the background with their swastikas, armbands, seig heils, and all of that nonsense have tainted what the alt-right could have been; what it should have been – an alternative to Neocon weak conservatism.
At this point, the Nazis and the Hitler “lulz” trolls can have the label. Perhaps critics were right all along and Spencer’s supposed claim to the label ensured it was doomed from the start. Perhaps that’s all it was: a bunch of race obsessed, jew hating basement dwellers who were literally consumed by hate. (I tire of the Jew hating – oh and by the way – I found out I’m part Jewish!)
We’ve been trying to highlight for ages how vicious and dangerous AntiFa is. While they haven’t killed anyone and it’s probably a matter of time, some demented mentally unstable nazi wannabe did. He deliberately murdered a woman with his car in ISIS fashion. That’s all people see, and it’s all they will see – even though there is more to the story.
They wont see the vicious AntiFa violence there. They won’t see how the VPD not only stood down, but deliberately herded the “UniteTheRight” protesters into the path of AntiFa. Sure enough, the police would vanish and leave the two groups to fight it out Gangs Of New York style. This alone implicates that the authorities in heavily urban democratic cities are essentially cooperating with AntiFa. Shocker. I am Jacks complete lack of surprise.
Instead of seeing any of this, people see what was obvious – actual Nazis throwing up salutes, chanting “blood and soil”, and the works. How can any sane person look past actual Nazi flags and not associate who ever else was there with being a Nazi. Instead of kicking them out, you let them in.
We on the dissident right wanted so badly for the Alt-Right to become something – such as an actual alternative.. Now it’s done. Finished. Left to what appears to be actual damn Nazis. You wonder how foolish, stupid, and ignorant of history these people have to be.
When I looked at the Alt-Right, I thought the Nazi Larpers were a small minority, just like the AntiFa are with the progressives. Obviously they would be purged just like Conservatives of the 1950s purged the John Birch Society
I was wrong.
Obviously Nazis must be denounced, even though the left isn’t going to denounce AntiFa – who have communist sympathies and ideology. (An ideology thats killed 10s of millions.)
I enjoyed their trolling, the hilarious memes, and even chuckled at those terrible jokes that triggered the easily offended progressives to the point of Hillary herself reading them to a national audience.
They were the new 1950s conservatives and and all of us in the Dissident Right sphere were the rebellion fighting against a cruel evil empire. “It was the left’s turn for their sacred cows to be violated!”, we all told ourselves. We were the new anti-establishment. But that’s all we were.
What The Hell Have We Been Doing?
Rebels. With barely an articulate cause, because the “normies” weren’t worthy of wasting time for the glorious explanation from the budding Hitlerites. That’s what the 1488 Larpers insisted in their glorious socialism. We all thought they were just in it for the “lulz”. Instead they eventually believed their lulz. It became part of their identity.
Wasn’t building white identity supposed to be about building one that isn’t based purely on opposition and hate? How about redeeming the very concept from the popular mainstream slurs and showing it as something that isn’t about “supremacy” and superiority, but about simply being proud of your ancestors, heritage, and legacies they have built?
Instead they memed and kept whining about how their aren’t enough white babies, all the while refusing to bother to even take the first steps to attempt to create a family and make more of them! Apparently the inability to do that was the fault of “minorities”, Jews, and mixed mongrels like myself.
Yes, we all have been saying that demographics is destiny – both on the left or right. It is. We in the Dissident Right and the normies at large must outbreed the left who keeps murdering their babies in the womb. Encourage the feminists to keep doing it.
Yet you ignored core strategy and the public schools indoctrinating the kids we do have. Instead of throwing your weight behind men like Vox Day – someone who I disagree with on various matters -who are creating alternate platforms, you rallied to Spencer, Anglin, and other malcontents who were outright disasters for the Alt-Right every time.
You ripped on the men who actually tried to create families by marrying women from overseas for their horrid race mixing while you jerked off in your damn basements. You stomped on Christendom and called for a return to paganism, ignoring the fact Christianity is what built European identity and made it great. Well, you can have your weird cultish occult symbols, your rabid blinding hate, and blaming of everyone else for your drug epidemics.. That’s surely and identity that we need.
Their irony turned into sincerity as Common Filth pointed out. It was with a horrid shock that we realized they actually believed all these things. They really did loathe blacks, jews, and minorities to the point of revulsion. The hate had consumed them, their glorious Nazi identity and white identity based almost completely on opposition to others who were to be blamed.
Kind good hard-working immigrants don’t exist in their world. Mixed people are somehow tainted. Diversity regardless any valid reason is always terrible. Hispanics are all criminals. All black males are criminals. My personal experience working and being around all these “minorities” are all apparently anomalies. Yeah, okay.
Let’s get real here. I have mixed race family, and I’m not just talking about my moms side and our Armenian halves. My half-white/half-black cousins are twice the people than any of these Nazis and supposed White Nationalists are. If push comes to shove, their well-being is my priority.
How’s that for punching right? How does it feel after you shits have been punching right every damn day about how we didn’t blame the jews enough or were too cuckish?
Instead of pushing truth, beauty, goodness, and the Christian roots which made Western civilization, we ignored the Nazis as best we could. It’s now to our detriment. They were never the alt-right. But with one protest that accomplished nothing, they took the label and burned it like the KKK did a cross.
Dickey Spencer claims victory while Baked Alaska may never see again and Heather is now dead. Antifa or not, she’s dead. Alex Fields who hit her, scared or not, will be raped in prison. Lives have been lost and ruined for Spencer to have his “leadership” moment.
Forget the label. He can have it as well as some “peaceful” ethnostate he’s wants to work toward while somehow “peacefully” removing “non-whites” from their homes who have been living there for generations. That’s not evil at all.
We Should Have Been Bold
It should be OBVIOUS that any movement that doesn’t purge Nazis is a non-starter. No sane person will have anything to do with it, let alone should. Instead of that purge, interlopers in the Alt-right and even some in the Dissident Right decided that somehow “Nazis” were on the right. Somehow, someway those in the Alt-right actually believed the leftists propaganda of the last 50 years that “Nazis” are somehow right-wing.
You know, despite all the totalitarian and authoritarian positions that are held by many leftists today. Jonah Goldberg made this point abundant in “Liberal Fascism“, but they couldn’t be bothered with it because he’s a jew. We aren’t punching right.
The Alt-Reichtards were never “right” to begin with. Just because AntiFa is their enemy didn’t mean they were our ally. This was constantly lost on people. The enemy of your enemy is not always your friend, as so many people in history have realized by the end of a sharp spear.
What many of us in the Dissent Right failed to realize – myself included – was that many on the alt-right, particularly the White Nationalists, didn’t have any actual “identity” besides opposition to SJWs, BLM, radical feminists, and “anti-racist” progressives, etc.
Yes, we all didn’t like how “white” had become a pejorative and that white people shouldnt be ashamed or need to check their privilege. This came from mixed race people like myself. That should have been the sign.
“Put another way, if being pro-white is only going to mean anti-black or anti-Jew or anti-Asian, then it is never going to be a useful identity group. It’s just going to be the nullification of other identity groups. That’s not a movement with a future, because it’s definition lies outside its control. It’s why feminism is curdling into a home for barren spinsters. It’s just a list of grievances. In order to avoid that fate, white identity is going to have to be a positive identity that defines itself, independent of the rest of the world.”
This is what the movement has turned into. Constant blaming of Jews, Blacks, and every other group under the sun. Those racial purists couldn’t even realize that not only do historical demographics constantly change – like they always have, but that it’s changing right now. George Zimmerman was labeled a “White Hispanic.”
Articles are being published by crazed feminists about how lighter POC need to check their privilege or else they risk becoming white. It probably won’t be long until mixed race individuals are thrown into the category. (Remember that the Irish, Italians, Greeks, etc weren’t considered white until the 20th century.)
Despite this, they decided it had to be the core tenant. Insanity. Then the White Nationalists among us decided that Nazis were somehow acceptable, even though the Nazis historically didn’t mind killing and trying to subjugate the Greeks, French, Slavs, and Russians. They weren’t even about bloody white supremacy!
Western European identity has been dying. Instead of figuring out why, blame was placed solely on blacks, jews, and all those other marginalized groups instead of where it should be: the heretical French Enlightement and the secularists that destroyed the foundations and burned the roots of what made Europe great.
Seriously, ask yourself? What is actually left preserving in Europe. A new identity will be born, but it won’t be one that can’t exist without other groups around to blame to fuel it’s existence. Christendom which built Europe is already being rebuilt in Africa and South America.
While you’ve been raving and ranting about their IQs, Christianity has been transforming the area. There are already more Anglicans in Africa, than in the rest of the world. The next pope will be African. But no, you couldn’t get past the racial element.
Yes, we were with you for limiting immigration, securing the borders, diminishing the destruction wrought by globalists elites, bankers, and self serving corporations. We were with you in the fight to stop the feminist annihilation of the relationship between the genders and the nonsensical victim crying of social justice. We were with you to fight back against political correctness.
We even tolerated Spencer’s vicious attacks and disdain of Christianity while ignoring the insanity of a “white ethnostate” in the US. We sympathized with the vicious attacks wrought upon people branded “white” on a daily basis by progressives. I will teach my sons (75%) white to be proud of their heritage, who they, and to never apologize for any actions of their ancestors. I will however teach them the difference between Nazis and pride in who they are – something you couldn’t do.
But you had to let the Nazis larp with you. Well, enjoy your label. The people going out there to punch Nazis certainly will. The label is toxic because you let it become so.
A lady on the morning news is a few streets down from me showing everyone the prevalent and widespread flooding from recent vicious storms. She talks to a few people nearby I’ve never met before. Two of the girls want to drive through a newly created pond to grab breakfast. Another guy is closely watching his half submerged house for flooding in critical areas. I don’t know any of these people, yet they are my neighbors.
Another day, another Trump headline. Some shootings in Chicago again. Crazy stories and revelations on the Drudge Report about a Russian lawyer no one’s ever heard of. CNN with shady coverage. Cringeworthy topless feminists trying to break up a Woody Allen concert.
Virtually every story I come across that I give attention to has no effect on my daily life. I “know” so much about what’s going on all over the world and nation, but just until today, I had no idea how bad the flooding damage was in my neighborhood and in nearby towns. In fact, I barely know what’s going on in people’s lives. Yes, I am busy creature with my wife and kids, but it’s far easier to share a Facebook status or meme than it is to get involved locally.
Plus I get to virtue signal to my own group that I’m woke. I’ve done my duty for the day and can avoid paying any more attention to the depressing hitsquad media circus in the current year. Of course, I’m able to do this because my life isn’t terribly hard at the moment.
I used to think that the majority of Americans are apathetic to the “important” stuff happening in the world and nation – and to some extent I still think that’s true – but how much can you care about riots in Berkeley when your basement is flooded and everything you had down there is trashed?
We often ask why all these sheeple don’t care about all the important stuff we know is important, but why should they? When I worked third shift, it was a second job for most of my co-workers. They were working 16 hours a day and sleeping maybe 5 if they were lucky. They didn’t have time, and anything they did wasn’t going to be spent worrying needlessly about things they couldn’t affect. Is it really apathy when they barely have time to sleep?
Time is the ultimate resource, and for all the time I and others bitch about nonsense happening on College campuses to celebrities lecturing us, none of it matters to someone who is spending all their time trying to pump water out of their basement.
I and many of us in this dissident right sphere have ignored our neighbors for national issues. We’ve ignored the struggles, trials, and chaos that plagues those around us to formulate musings, observations, and rants about feminism, social justice blatherings, and vacuous journalism. Say what you want about guys like Jack Donovan, but at least he’s creating his own tribe with which to live his life.
I’m back in Illinois – and looking at moving to Wisconsin the future, and I can’t help but notice that people don’t have time to care when shitholes like Waukegan, Zion, and North Chicago are filled with the hopeless who can’t find jobs, drug pushers on the street, and people begging you for money and cigarettes on every corner. Regardless of whether you loathe or hate Trump, he has no idea who you are and isn’t going to bail you out of your shitty life situation. Neither obviously will his critics.
We keep looking for political saviors to improve our lives, but we find none because the national is never focused or concerned on the local – even more so for your smaller towns. Washington DC doesn’t care about you. Chicago doesn’t care about the small towns in the rest of the state. (There’s a reason urban and rural concerns and voting is so different. )
If we want to convince people to care about the problems that face our future, we have to make their future one that is worth living for. The friends you make are the ones that will hear you out because they know you, care about you, know the investment you have in their lives, and they know you are going through the same crap they are thus forming a mutual identity. No one REALLY cares about those that aren’t like them or in the same plight.
Mark my words, this is what will drive a new cultural class identity – not race or ethnicity. Anyone with brains already knows that there’s little worth preserving in France, that Japan disdains foreigners, and that Europe’s problem’s didn’t come from refugees, but from the terrible bitter fruit of the cursed French Revolution and Enlightenment. But no, let’s blame the Jews and blacks.
Yea we can be woke with our statistics about true crime, but until communities are rebuilt, it’s pointless virtue signaling to our own crowd and arguing with people online who have never met us and consider us loathsome deplorable chem drooling hicks from the Appalachians who apparently deserve to die.
Online persuasion with irritable keyboard happy strangers is a fool’s errand. Until they meet us face-to-face, their hatred will always blind them to the fact that the suffering of people who aren’t a “minority” or marginalized group actually matters.
Stop going to fight AntiFa in Berkeley or some other peaceful, prosperous, and devoid of poverty liberal city. Focus on your neighbors instead. If AntiFa tries to show up to where you live, then fight them there – hopefully with locals and neighbors who don’t care about politics, but see AntiFa as invading scum who are the Fascists they claim to fight.
We want to be on the frontlines “making a difference”, but the frontlines are our OWN communities. That’s where the war has to be “fought”, where it’s always been fought, and it for sure as hell isn’t for those who troll mercilessly on twitter with no attachments to a communities people in real life. It’s for those who are willing to strain their backs, babysit their neighbors kids, and actually get off their damn smartphone and learn that actual face-to-face conversation is what builds trust, community, and stability for the foundations of the future.
Online Movements Are Nothing Without Local Community
Ask yourself, how much do you have in common with those in online communities besides overlapping parts of your worldview? If you perished tomorrow, would you be missed? Would articles be written? By no means should any relationships and friendships formed online be denigrated, but are your forming quality relationships with your neighbors? If a Ferguson erupted in your town, your and your frantic neighbors would share the same terrifying situation.
What’s left of the Alt-right is already proving to be narcissistic feuding degenerates all wanting a piece for themselves and to rule it from their arm chairs, while throwing each other under the bus. The online presence is often just that; online trolls to personalities either spamming books, asking for patreon donations, or meming from sun up to sun down. (I won’t denigrate the meme aspect of the culture war.)
Just as most of us pessimistic types realized, online movements are often corrupted into some warped version of themselves – as the white nationalists among us make clear daily as they obsess about race, race, and more race. Often, I’m wondering if they are just as bitter as the BLM types and what the hell is worth preserving of “white” culture – whatever that means these days besides materialism and perpetually shopping till you drop.
What the alt-right originally undertook – the forming of an identity that could rebuild the crumbling foundations of Western culture – has instead been subverted into a shallow identity of “opposition” to the left. Rather than offer up real solutions – with the exception of Vox Day – it’s been reduced down to infighting, blaming, “big government is great if it helps whites”, and ramblings about IQ.
“Take a group of people – any group of people – and if they lack an explicit purpose for associating, as well as a command and control system to make sure that purpose doesn’t waver, their identity will eventually boil down to the lowest common denominator. And the lowest common denominator for any group is usually the fact that they’re not that other group. Their identity will become something reactionary and negative; by defining themselves as the opposite of that which they oppose, they will eventually allow that other group to define who they are. Often enough, their opposition will do the same thing. Soon enough, you have two groups who are mirror images of one another, fighting one another, and whatever principles or goals that might have started the two groups, are quickly reduced to nothing but slogans, and their former leaders are vilified for holding them back from the fray.”
Even the proposals that do come forth such as Spencer’s white only ethno state aren’t just bad ideas, but will never happen. That of course assumes “white” will mean the same thing in the future as it does today – which means it won’t. What are you left with?
A local community from which you and your neighbors will build an identity. Take everything you learn online and apply it. Avoid repeating the mistakes of your “blue pill” self. History is a great teacher and one that we must constantly come back to for lessons that have stood the test of time.
Our focus must be local. You can’t address your neighbors worldview when his house is falling apart and he doesn’t know where the money is going to come from for his next mortgage payment. Desperation is all around us, but often we are blissfully unaware of it. We forget that the most eager “converts” are those whose lives were previously in shambles, yet now are starting to emerge from the slime and grind of daily life.
No reformation, societal overhaul, or prevention of the fall of what’s left of Western culture will take place until it transforms local communities. Online movements are constantly prone to decay, and ours is no exception. The Neo-Reactionists in our sphere may write as obtuse and high church like manner to keep out entryists and subversion, but they likely will be left behind in their own bubble never pushing the Overton window.
To believe in anything, you must see it impact you and those around you. It is far better to live in happiness with your neighbors then to write in malice toward strangers on either coast. The former will always be with you, while the latter you will never meet. Perhaps we can make the “change” Obama disingenuously never intended.