People See What They Want To See
I was listening to a podcast in which Mike Cernovich was interviewed by a Muslim feminist Mirriam Seddiq. The topic was broached as to why he didn’t bother to make it clearer to detractors/haters/trolls that he didn’t hate women, something his then girlfriend and now wife Shauna asked him. His response to her was that people see what they want to see.
That is precisely what this “Roosh wants to legalize rape” media frenzy is doing as it panders to juicy and downright libelous headlines for clicks. His detractors, plus people who are willing to believe the absolute worst about someone because “someone said so online”, don’t really care about truth if they can demonize an “extremist” or someone they don’t like. Rocking Philosophy makes this point perfectly regarding the Roosh V witch hunt:
“Particularly hypocritical is the way leftists pretend not to recognise satire. There have been countless occasions when the Left, with the backing of their media cohorts, have used the ‘satire’ and ‘humour’ defence when they’ve overreached (or they just deny something ever happened). One example is the EndFathersDay hashtag. Another is the KillAllWhiteshashtag. Anything found on website, the Onion, can basically be put in this category, too.”
Remember, it’s only satire when they do it. You are now seeing media manufactured outrage at its peak, created in part by rabid feminists like David Futrelle which is where this chain of stories first started a week back. I wont link to his site, just google, “We Hunted The Mammoth”
The fact that it was a thought experiment in the form of satire is irrelevant – Futrelle the king of disingenuous quote mining – now that a very dedicated mob has their torches and their game-plans worked out. Obviously, Jonathan Swift was a pro-cannibalism and slavery advocate.
Well, an article by Snopes debunking the idea that a group of men attending meetups around the world who support legalizing rape has been out for almost 24 hours.
Of course, this hasn’t stopped minor to major media outlets like Chicago’s very own WGN from pretending that this group of heinous vicious possible patriarchal misogynist rapists in the underground volcano are indeed as villainous and their headlines and stories would suggest.
It doesn’t matter that Roosh has made clear that the article in question that has garnered him recent headlines such as, “Nearly 50,000 sign petition to ban pro-rape pick-up artist” and “Militant pro-rape ‘pick up artist’ Roosh V organises event for followers in Manchester City Centre“ was satire.
That is just out of what is now over 300 news articles in the last several days virtually saying the same thing as they piggyback information off each other with each description of Roosh getting worse than the last. Strangely vacant in most of them is the disclosure of the satire in question, because who cares?
Emboldened indeed. Below is just in the last hour when this was written…
What’s even more shocking is that the same people who sincerely and utterly believe that rape is VERY bad – as do 99.9% of the rest of the population – have no problem making rape threats against Roosh and any men who plan on showing up to the meetups.
It’s even more ironic that these as well as threats of beatings via baseball bats, castration, and even death are coming from people who often speak out against feminists being subjected to online “harassment” and “abuse”.
At least we can say we showed consistent condemnation of the censorship of free speech when #istandwithbaharmustafa trended worldwide on Twitter in response to the nonsensical hate speech laws of the UK, even though she tweets things such as #killallwhitemen.
I explained this to my wife who was seeing articles about Roosh pop up on her Facebook feed and she asked me, “Can’t he do something about it?” Roosh can do something about it, but his target audience are the observers in the background who will be made aware of just how vicious and downright appalling the conduct of his critics are.
To do this, documentation of the threats they make is essential and this post aims to do just that.
Hear Supposed Evil, See Supposed Evil
Notice how members of these protest groups against the meetups are willing to encourage violence, rape, and death-threats toward anyone who dares attend:
Notice that particular quote from Mr. Brent Vee , “Mate if you ever go to Sydney and i gope my boys meet you, belt the f** k out of you, bend you over and rape every hole on your body with every cylinder like object they can find… I hope you’re chucked into a sydney jail where the boys have a field day with you…”
Did anyone else notice Mr. Daniel Karp uttering the following polite and cordial words, “Im going to smash your fucking face in. You going to be begging for death when I am finished with you. You fucking piece of shit. Die fucker die!” or the kind words from Victor Rook, “Hey fuck stick, come to ct sometime, I feel like raping a little bitch named roosh.” Clearly, he believes rape is a terrible thing that no human being should suffer…
Threats And More Threats
Note: Any images that appear are because The Roosh V Forum is currently in private mode due to signs of imminent doxxing, rape, and death threats. This will change in the near future.
Anyone who agrees with Roosh deserves to have their spleen removed and their testes stomped. He sounds like a nice tolerant guy.
Catch that as well?
He doesn’t find the idea of rape abhorrent if it someone who he abhors getting raped. I’m noticing a pattern here.
“IM GOING TO FUCKING MURDER YOU CUNT!!!…” courtesy of Mr. Jake Lawrence. Isn’t that kind of violent speech illegal in Australia?
See that? Roosh needs torture followed by a bullet. A perfectly acceptable call to violent action and murder.
What is the common theme that you – most intelligent and perceptive reader – have noticed throughout these posts? How about the following tweets and posts?
Note, I’m not going to bother to block out any of their names. This is on them and the public format they are shouting threats from. Take a look at who the real animals are.
Violence is bad – except if it’s directed toward a group of people that it’s acceptable to vilify. So is apparently is rape, that is unless you are raping acceptable targets. I wonder where we have seen that before. The tirade of various vicious threats continues.
Speaking of even more death-threats…
I planned on going to the Chicago meetup, regardless of tough guy anarchists. Let their tactics demonstrate just how willingly these people are willing to go to silence dissenting.
The Scarlet Label
If you browse through the various comments on all of the media coverage on Roosh, both through social media and the sites’ comment sections, you’ll notice labels tossed our way like “archaic”, “misogynist”, “medieval”, “stone-age”, “rapey”, “outdated”.
What these labels do is determine particular “crime-think” for the unwitting masses. Your ideas aren’t debated, rather they and any individual who dares discuss them are labeled.
Essentially, the messenger is always shot, or in our case threatened with doxxing, rape, and death. The messenger deserves no trial to defend themselves because an archaic patriarchal creepy misogynist who supports legalizing rape couldn’t possibly be innocent of all those terrible buzzword labels.
That’s the point.
It literally is Rules For Radicals applied to thought-criminals that don’t subscribe to the cultural hegemony. The “individual” – thanks to digital mainstream culture and socio-fascist SJWS and feminists – is now a legitimate target ranging from their reputations and family to their jobs and even legal welfare.
The “protesters” version of peaceful protest and assembly seemed to involve everything from castration and rape to physical beatings and even death rendered toward the thought criminals who planned on meeting for drinks.
None of their threats had anything to do with “debating” us. In fact, they were willing to go as far as plastering our faces with all the juicy labels attached – including “pro-rape” – online and in the streets in an effort to cost us our jobs, if not much more.
I loathe feminism and social justice, but never could I imagine going after someone with this level of vitriol and threats – assuming they weren’t already at this level engaging in these tactics, in which you must fight fire with fire.
It should now be clear; our most ardent and slanderous critics aren’t interested whatsoever in debates. As Quintus Curtius has pointed out in his article, “We Will Not Debate You, We Will Replace You,”
Debate, if that word is to have any rational meaning, can only take place if there is good faith on the part of all participants. When there is no good faith–that is, when one side deliberately lies and distorts the views of the other–then there are no grounds for rational discussion.
Violence is apparently quite golden when we are in the cross-hairs. It’s even justified against reprobate scoundrels like us in the manosphere, Alt-right, and anglosphere who have been labeled everything villainous under the sun. We put Bond villains to shame with this newfound level of media created infamy..
We are on the worlds most wanted list of thought-criminals and its time to render unto Caesar what is Caesars; the scorched earth approach to our enemies who have showed no such caution in doing it to us.
This is what operation Bull-Horn is about; accountability by those with a pulpit who have chosen to lie and slander with it – nothing more and nothing less.
If you as a journalist lie blatantly and deliberately, then we will have no reservation in letting your current and future employers, as well as your audience and peers know of your deliberate malpractice.
We will fight back.
1. Through establishing a close support network founded upon trust, loyalty, and “iron sharpening iron” so we can coordinate our efforts to fight back effectively and efficiently.
This is why the meetups were so important and will occur in the future. In order to truly trust someone, you need to at least see them face-to-face and experience the non-verbals that help sharpen our instincts.
2. Through words – emails, posts, letters, and even social media posts to generate acute awareness, as well as other various ways, each according to their own.
3. With pictures and video. Whenever the mob threatens action, always have your phone ready, recording every interaction where anything even remotely violent is attempted.
If they are okay with plastering our faces everywhere with the intent to destroy our lives, then we should retaliate in kind when they are caught assaulting us in public. Violent offenders are a danger to the public, are they not?
Carpe Diem and always be prepared if they do manage to get to you.